not so FringeElements

I thought it would be useful to post this response as a blog post as an object lesson for all.

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My response;

You have in the past equivocated “Jew” as a “race” (as you tacitly acknowledge here).

Putting aside the question of taxonomical significance my problem has always been that you and yours attempt to conflate fuzzy sets into distinct sets.  You then toss down a proverbial genetic gauntlet using rhetoric and then wait for your audience to pick it up and make assumptions about others en masse based on unreliable visual observation.

I would also suggest in the future that perhaps you should get the appropriate training in genetics lest you continue to be incorrect when you speak extemporaneously (which you also acknowledge you do), which appears to be the standard style of your videos (speaking extemporaneously).

That way you can actually speak extemporaneously and not make easily falsifiable assertions, because education and training is what gives people the ability to speak in such a manner and not make continual errors as you do.

But let’s be clear here;

You are not a scientist.  You are not a geneticist.  You are a reasonably bright young adult that by your own admission at most has a high school diploma/ GED who also has had minimal exposure to other cultures.

Browsing the internet for articles and publications that you feel back up your claims does not make you anything but an activist for the existence of race.

And the only reason a non-scientist would continue to obsessively post material as you have done on the subject is because you seek to bring about social change that will fulfill your political goals.

That is why you raise strawmen by accusing your opponents (including myself) of being egalitarians, statists, and other similar labels.

It is because you toss science casually down and then set up your bully pulpit on the ground it covers and speak to your audience using every trick in the activist’s book you can dig up.

So your “case” for hereditarianism is merely the musings of an internet-educated small town activist who has never moved beyond the genre of posting videos.

And you can cease to be amazed as this is not a debate.  This is me teaching you; period.  Whether the lesson takes hold is up to you.

But I’ll tell you what.  Submit your video/s to a peer reviewed journal, submit them to even a single published, respected scientist and get a response from them where they are clearly treating your work as one colleague would treat another?

And then the balance of power in what little relationship we have will be ready to change.

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2 thoughts on “not so FringeElements

  1. “You have in the past equivocated “Jew” as a “race” (as you tacitly acknowledge here).”

    – You were wrong about me treating Jews as a race, and now you’re shifting the topic. “Tacitly” is a weasel-word in this instance. I didn’t “tacitly” acknowledge a conflation, I “didn’t” acknowledge a conflation, because there never was one.

    I’m not interested in your highly authoritarian view of knowledge, and your “experts” that can’t predict. You want to say I’m wrong because the priests of your day say so, even though all the social science predictions on race fail (civil rights, decolonization, ending of apartheid, budget contribution of immigrant groups in Britain, France and Germany), well, there’s nothing I can do for you.

    Your “experts” who can’t predict, and whose stock and trade is environmental explanations for everything and who have their professional existence tied to a set of anti-evolution absolutes set in the 1970s.

    “the balance of power in what little relationship we have will be ready to change” – lol you’re such a tool.

    • “You were wrong about me treating Jews as a race,”

      I already addressed this in comments from the initial blog post in this series (who knew my casually pointing out Dawkins didn’t agree with your positions would lead to a series? :D)

      “and now you’re shifting the topic”

      Addressing the flaws in your logic and the reason behind it is not topic shifting; it’s getting to the root of the disease.

      “ “Tacitly” is a weasel-word in this instance. I didn’t “tacitly” acknowledge a conflation,”

      I never said you “tacitly acknowledged a conflation”. You’re confusing points I made.

      “I’m not interested in your highly authoritarian view of knowledge,”

      “Highly authoritarian” =Judgmental language fallacy. The reality is that all I did was point out that you’ve got absolutely no education or training in any way, shape or form which is glaringly obvious in your work. My observation doesn’t rule out the self taught. There are people in numerous fields who come under the label “colleague” who had an unorthodox education but are still respected by peers.

      You clearly aren’t one of them.

      “because the priests of your day say so,”

      “Priest” = judgmental language fallacy yet again. That’s two uses of emotional quantifiers in three paragraphs. The sort of thing one expects from an activist, not a scientist.

      “I’m not interested in your highly authoritarian view of knowledge, and your “experts” that can’t predict. You want to say I’m wrong because the priests of your day say so, even though all the social science predictions on race fail (civil rights, decolonization, ending of apartheid, budget contribution of immigrant groups in Britain, France and Germany), well, there’s nothing I can do for you.
      Your “experts” who can’t predict, and whose stock and trade is environmental explanations for everything and who have their professional existence tied to a set of anti-evolution absolutes set in the 1970s.“

      I’m sure everyone will appreciate that you’re acknowledging this isn’t about science for you, it’s about political activism. Also; nice red herring you did there.

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